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Iím 40 y.o. from Denmark. For 2010 Ė 2014 I had 10 attempts of IFV on my own eggs. it has been exhausted challenge. And you understand how it was hard getting nothing from my attempts. Each attempt was failed due to low quality of embryos. I have no contraindications to childbearing so I still want to experience this. Time goes and my embryosí quality canít get better. And my husband and I want to try to go through the DE ivf, it may help us to make our old dream come true. In medical document I officially have an infertility of endocrine genesis. Now I need to be advised what the next step we should make. 1 Rozental
3/6/2017
well there's nothing to say rather you should go for egg donation or even surrogacy? or maybe I am too straightforward? first of all you should have a consultation with a gyno or a fertility specialist. that will be the right way to do it. but if you are asking about your further actions I would say that after you have a consultation with a specialist you should start googling egg donation options... because if it did not work out after 10 attempts of IVf on your own eggs I do not think that there are a lot of chances to get pregnant after another round of IVF oe... good luck with your search! I do not think that I can advise you something as I am starting my surrogacy program but in my clinic they offer egg donation ivf too at least I know one thing for sure that they allow you choosing donors!! that's like 100% 2 bethany2
3/6/2017
oh hi hon. so sorry for you multiple failed cycles... i thought i was the only one here trying to fight infertility. it's so painful to see lots of young girls posting about their unwanted pregnancy at 14-17...I just want to have a baby, one more baby actually. I don't know what happened, I became a mother after the first de ivf round. my donor was young and healthy girl and we got great embies and 6 jf them were freezed after transfer. I had 3 more cycles with the same embryos but no go. Dr told me to consider surrogacy as an option...but i want to bear my baby on my own.. I wish you to stay strong and follow your dream. 2 yamamma
3/6/2017
Yup, no hope for OE pregnancy, itís awful. But my desire is strong, I want to gift a baby or two for my DH in the nearest future. I feel power for that but not for another tedious disappointment. I had a talk and consultation. The doctor said that he didnít see reasons for us to be upset. I still can carry a child, my uterus is in well condition. So we need searching for options. Before today I havenít tried to post on the forums but read a lot. There are many clinics which provide DE treatment in Europe. basically these are the variants from eastern europe. And the things youíre saying are amazing. It will be perfect if I can choose my donor from the relevant database. Actually we also want to use fresh cells in fertilization. Does your clinic have this or they work only with frozen materials from the donors? 3 Rozental
3/6/2017
One thing is the happiness for some people and the misfortune for other ones. I envy them and do not the same time. If I had my baby at 14 I think, Iíd be worrying about this. But now I crave having my first-born and as you I want to bear baby by myself to feel everything related to this. And if itís possible I want to experience this pregnancy on the fresh d-eggs, I donít trust in successful outcome of the frozen fertilization. 4 Rozental
3/6/2017
@Rozental, i totally understand you. I think in my case another donor's eggs could help. I'm ready to go through few more rounds in order to deliver a baby personally. I like to be pregnant, I can't explain what a lovely period it is. Do you have any ideas? I was told about few clinics with guarantees. I think it's the best option, refund in case of negative results in a few cycles in a row. 5 yamamma
3/6/2017
@yamamma Iím absolutely agreed with you. Exactly I want to experience this holy mission. I want to remember every event during my pregnancy. Want to get a support and love from my favorite man, I know he would supply. So can you share? Every information is important now. What did you hear about any clinics and why did they seem attractive to you? 6 Rozental
3/6/2017
@Rozental, there are lots of clinics with guarantee IVF programs in the USA, but I don't know the details, because i'm from Europe and here there are also decent variants. in Prague, for example, there is a clinic which guarantee 3d ivf cycle in case of 2 failed ones, in Kiev you could sign for a package including 5 attempts and in case of negatives you'll get your money back. I've met some more options I guess, but can't remember now. 7 yamamma
3/6/2017
@yamamma You mean Iíll get my money back if this doesnít work for 5 times? It sounds attractive and questionably. I think this clinic has a big confidence in its success. Guess they donít want to give money back, losing so much of time and meds. From all sides itís better for them to make everything right and satisfy us. Why do you know all this? Did you have your experience there? 8 Rozental
3/6/2017
@Rozental, you're tight, they are sure in success of the program, but of course they need to make certain of the fact you suit the program. they have experienced donors and that's why they are so confident it will work. I haven't been there personally, but I tried to find any information about refunds and found none. hope it's a good sign. I'm thinking of contacting few clinic and maybe thhis one with 5 attempts will be good enough for us. Good luck to you x 9 yamamma
3/6/2017
@yamama Thank you very much, this was very useful to know. What about their ďexperienced donorsĒ? did they have their own healthy children before they take part in the programs? And it is an amazing sign only in case if information wasnít hidden. Hah. How can anyone to apply to them? Sorry, for such number of questions, perhaps you donít know the answer. 10 Rozental
3/7/2017
Rozental, one of the main requirements to egg donors in the clinic is thet a donor must have at least one healthy baby to become a part of the program. The are also young ladies, so you'll have a good number of eggs to fertilize. At least it's what I know from their website 11 yamamma
3/9/2017
yamamma Very interesting! Also speaking about donors, who are these women? And why are they engaged in this? these are general questions, perhaps you are right and it was better to look through their site. But if itís possible I want you to tell me a bit about it. Thank you. 12 Rozental
3/9/2017
well as far as I understood, those women decided to become egg donors just to help others, they don't get much money for this, so it's not the way to make money. these young girls, 18-25 yo, are of different appearence, have various hobbies and occupations. all info you'll get when you are ready to start treatment. I was told I can get an access to a donor database and look through candidates. there are not only brief information bout them, but also photos and even video interviews 13 yamamma
3/9/2017
@yamamma Very pleasant to find it out. I guess the facts that they have to have an own healthy baby and theyíre young the same time are wonderful. I like it. You said we could select because db includes of lot of variants, how many women are there? Just approximately. Can we meet our chosen? If we chose two or three would anyone help us to leave the most relevant one? 14 Rozental
3/9/2017
rosental, you can choose 5-7 donors or so and there are about 300 in total. when you make a decision, you must put down donors' numbers in priority order. final decision on which donor to stimulate is up to a doctor and he must know which candidate you prefer 15 yamamma
3/9/2017
@yamamma Alright! I know you are just in preparation to have a treatment in this clinic. But you are already aware of so many informative facts. You give a real help, dear. Thank you for that and for your time Iím stealing. You maynít know but how much time can the first steps take? I mean time from our initial consultation till fertilization? 16 Rozental
3/9/2017
well, I can't know for sure, yo're right. In my last clinic it took me about 3 months for fresh cycle and a bit less for fet. 17 yamamma
3/9/2017
Summing up, I want to ask perhaps the last question. Where should I apply with my problem? And what can I expect? I got acquainted with the site that you offered me. They offer three types of the treatment concerning my issue, i mean three contract types. What better to choose. Perhaps Iím delaying my conversation to the manager, but Iím grateful you're giving me advices. 18 Rozental
3/10/2017
I meant I had been on several Ukrainian websites. And Iíve found the one that can fit your description. Itís biotexcom, isnít it? Correct me please if I made a mistake. Really good offers, quite interesting. Or what can you recommend? 19 Rozental
3/10/2017
for a momemt I thought you can read read my mind lol. you're right it's biotexcom, really good prices for services they provide, defo better than in my prev clinic. I can't tell you which pack is better for you, such decision is up to you. moreover I can't know more than you, just only few detailes I shared with you before. discuss this issue with your husband and choose the best option for you two. 20 yamamma
3/10/2017
Ok! Hah we had a short talk about biotex. It was: -Donít you want to look at its site? -why? How do you think itís good to us? -perhaps, yup. -Perfect! Call them! What you want from me? Hah! Funny. Then he asked about some aspects, types of contracts, prices, providing. Too much info, canít keep everything in my mind. Well, I didnít call ( either mail) them yet. Iíd be useful to compare other Ukrainian variants, but I hadnít ever heard about others. Are there any different clinics in Ukraine? Or that was enough to know of biotex? 21 Rozental
3/13/2017
haha really funny. he is a busy person and he gives you a chance to choose, yeh? well, there are other clinics in Ukraine- Nadiya, Isida in Kiev, la Vita Nova agency and Feskov clinic in kharkiv, Intersono in Lviv. I compared them and Biotexcom suits me most. You may compare them on your own. eggdonationfriends website has an option of comparing different fertility clinics all over the world, must be useful for you. 22 yamamma
3/13/2017
Jeez! So many! I assume I found out about biotex first of all and it was such a sign I have to follow. I think it can prove their good advertising work and work to customers. I remember I met one name from your list! It wasnít positive feedback, but Iíve thoughts it was about Poland clinic. Perhaps these countries are near to each other. Curiously to see reviews by people who were in those reproductive centers. 23 Rozental
3/13/2017
in Poland there is a clinic Invicta,maybe it resembles of Intersono? That website I gave you has reviews of real clients of all these clinics, you may look through them 24 yamamma
3/13/2017
@yamamma I was on other site and saw a post by one woman. I can even say Ďby finally happy womaní who had her cycle in biotexcom. There were more than 15 previous ivf rounds before in her life. (exactly I canít say for sure it was a true or not but such story was told.) as well as I donít know she had ivf on OE or not. She successfully has passed through the DE ivf and remains satisfied. If I understood correctly she was at the 20 week of her pregnancy while posting and felt as fine as it was possible. Before this attempt she thought that her dream died. but miracles happen. What do you think about it? 25 Rozental
3/14/2017
oh 15.. she's even more sick then you are haha, just kidding. it's great that after years of ttc she finally managed to become mommy. now it's our turn i guess, hun. i think we need to do the first steps. have you had medicals recently? 26 yamamma
3/14/2017
Am on the stage of communicating to one center. Iím asking questions. (sometimes receive answers ahhah). I feel like something is boiling inside me (donít think itís a stomach upset) itís a sign that my patience will burst soon. And Iíll do it again. The battle goes on! and yes i had 27 Rozental
3/14/2017
HELLO ROZENTAL! Awful that you always get negative result. Do you know the reason why? I mean your endocrine issues caused multiple failures? If you have no contraindications then you are lucky enough. I didn't know that doctors are ready to perform more IVF rounds after this number of failed attempts. I'm pregnant now with my third child and DE IVf is the only thing that helped me to become a mom. But before you start, you must be sure that you could receive all the necessary information about donor, health state above all and only then pay attention to her appearance. 28 pin
3/15/2017
to PIN I guess if clinic has its donor database they can provide us with all necessary information. Donors can be anonymous, but we have a right to study information about them. Iíd never use an egg from anybody whose appearance and lifestyle were hidden from me. I saw you had the successful experience through DE iVF. Did you have an opportunity to select your donor? did you possess enough information about her? 29 Rozental
3/15/2017
according to the law of Ukraine, my clinic is there, all the donors must be anonymous even if they would like to meet those people who use their eggs. them's the rules. I've got all the information I needed, I know about donor's grandparents health state and their occupation. But some agencies or clinics don't give you any information and photos of donors or choose them on their own at all. be careful 30 pin
3/16/2017
to pin Canít understand why someone approves such law. I donít see any dangerous to meet my donor. Perhaps itís only my opinion and somebody else thinks that itís just a dealing and thereís no reason to see the donor in real. Actually strange but for sure we canít know whose eggs are used in our fertilization. I mean eggs donít look like their owners. Nevertheless itís perfect you said your clinic had such a great base. Very interesting to check. 31 Rozental
3/16/2017
there is no need to understand laws haha, just accept them or at least try to. to be honest I don't understand your eggs and faces comparison. but you are right in some way, for example, i still don't want to meet my donor. i'm extremely grateful for the help but a deal is a deal. hige database i mentioned is in biotex clinic 32 yamamma
3/16/2017
yamamma, I think that message was meant for me. but you are perfectly right. not everyone is ready to meet with a donor. But I think I'm among those people who would love to see that lovely young woman and to thank her personally. and biotexcom, I wrote about it too. 33 pin
3/16/2017
@yamamma Thank you very much for recommendations and advice. You may think this way but I have my own opinions. But the most important thing to each of us is to have a positive result and feel safety during the treatment. Itís really great that they have such base. Very good for them they offer fresh egg donation. I think so. 34 Rozental
3/16/2017
I frequently heard about this clinic, about its good service and donor database. Right now Iím a bit confused to hear about this from different women. Iím happy for your choice and your outcomes and I want to know is there any site or forum where I can find out more stories from real biotex clients collected in one place? Like a guest book 35 Rozental
3/16/2017
Rozental, of course, i respect your point of view. you may look through success rates in different clinics and compare the results. but keep in mind that every clinic has own ways of calculating them. if you got a bfp, one clinic will express it as a positive result no matter if you delivered a baby. another clinic may make calculations regarding live birth rate. so, everything is relative. 36 yamamma
3/20/2017
@rozental if you were to that clinic, you would see that there are maaany couples from different countries. it's not surprising at all to witness different people discussing the same things. you may find specialized forums for infertile men and women, such as healthunlocked, inspire, fertilityfriends, babycenter. just google them and you'll find lots of support and useful information. 37 pin
3/20/2017
yammama Yeah, I thought about that. We deal only with statistics, this can mislead. Actually we canít check the realness of these calculations. Itís a fear to be deceived. But also itís a hope this time we weíll get a success. How does your center figure out its success rate for example? Itís interesting 38 Rozental
3/20/2017
pin Thank you a lot, Pin! I know there are too many forums for ladies on the Internet where we can chat and waste our time. please do not upset if I said something bad and insulted your feelings. I guess the single good forum is enough to get a one really good advice to know what to do on. Because sometimes comparing brings just confusions. And then we try to gather our thoughts together and canít. So I think better to me to meet one adequative woman who give me useful advice. 39 Rozental
3/20/2017
I don't think that clinics want to fool their poential client by telling they have higher success rate than it really is. However, no one can tell for sure. As far as I know, statistics in biotex depends on child births. but i could be mistaken. you can find this information on their website. 40 yamamma
3/20/2017
rosental well, tastes differ. I like spend time chatting in different communities with different people. social networks, publics, forums. such things are connecting people and it's always interesting what to know their opinions and attitudes. I got your point of view however. my husband for example, he doesn't read any comments, he just doesn't trust people at all. but there are lots of good people who make their decisions only after comparing reviews. we all are people and we are free to choose our own ways. i'm glad if my words are helpful. wish you good luck!x 41 pin
3/21/2017
yammama Iím hurrying to dive into this program. really now Iím writing having amazing feeling inside. You know sometimes we feel everything goes perfect as though nothing was bad in the past. I can say for sure my own success rate was miserable. Ohh! Knees are shaking I predict Iíll get what I wanted for too long. Ask me something, please or just give me few words of cheeriness, I need to talk so much! 42 Rozental
3/21/2017
pin Thank you a lot! You even donít know how I trust people. And how itís important to hear good words from them. I know we live in the cruel world and people are different but my faith is strong. The same as my desire to hug and kiss my baby. Iíve made my decision on my own but here I made it more accurate. 43 Rozental
3/21/2017
really? don't make haste? have you discussed it with husband? which package are you going to choose? if I were you i would pay attention to Ideal package...just to avoid negative results or to be sure that if something goes wrong you can switch to surrogacy. no natter what you choose, i'm sending you lots of love! take care, hun x 44 yamamma
3/21/2017
yammama ThankU! Dear! You mean the package with possibility to try surrogacy in case I fail my ivf attempts? we've read but I didnít catch itÖ it costs more than 20 k, am I right? Sorry, remind me please. Weíve been discussing the necessity during the years and I was happy we quickly got an agreement this time. 45 Rozental
3/22/2017
oh, good for you that he supports you this much. yes, that package. you see, you don't need to pay all that money at once. also if you get pregnant from the first ivf attempt you'll pay only 5k after signing a contract and 5k after successful pregnancy confirmation. and only in case of a few negative results you pay for switching to surrogacy and then the rest of money after certain steps in a program. 46 yamamma
3/22/2017
yamamma You know huge number of failed attempts behind my back. And my brain and body are so tired of disappointments. How I mentioned before I donít intent to kill myself by another row of tries and if one or two are not enough to achieve Iíll stop it and apply to the other assistance as a surrogacy. Really? Itís quite suitable I mean the possibility to pay by parts and not to pay for assistance you havenít received. 47 Rozental
3/22/2017
yammama Excuse me we know about the difference between places of accommodation in case of different packages were chosen. And I need to find out what about this option? What will we have (I meant accommodation and other providing) if we order the Ideal package? I know you may not know such detailed stuff, but anyway thank you in advance. 48 Rozental
3/22/2017
yes, of course I know what you've been through. maybe i'll act just like you if I were totally childless. all the packages they offer consists of a few installments, except the one-attempt of DE IVF. It's really convenient. 48 yamamma
3/22/2017
regarding your question about accommodation, i really can't know. i was told that economy and standard clients stay in hotels and vip are in huge apartments. so, i think those who choose ideal pack must be in a hotel. i doubt they can be accommodated in apartment as they don't pay as much as VIPs do. 49 yamamma
3/22/2017
yamamma I guess that each payment implies the specific stage. It divides our journey into parts. I think it can be suitably. And how much do we have to pay for example in case of theĒ and only in case of a few negative results you pay for switching to surrogacy and then the rest of money after certain steps in a program.Ē? Has it to be paid by one entire instalment? 50 Rozental
3/27/2017
yamamma I donít like to know it. Isnít any possibility to change the accommodation place if weíre not satisfied or something disturbs us there? have no wish to make you puzzled by my stupid quiz, but every separated detail can play its important role in moment we face with it. 51 Rozental
3/27/2017
In case of negatives you could move to surrogacy. But you need to pay 2k for this thransition. ant then like in a typical surrogacy contract your payments are divided into 3 more parts. and of course, there are few conditions involving extra payments: twins (5k) and if something happens to a surrogate mother's pregnancy (2k) 52 yamamma
3/27/2017
yamamma Maybe I understood something wrong reading the contractsÖ I didnít find information about Ďextra paymentsí I thought there were no any extra. Also I donít remember the exact amount of compensation but it seems it was different from your data. Iím stupid, if you say that all this only associated to the ideal package Iíll blush. 53 Rozental
3/28/2017
oh god, maybe it's my fault. not that these payments are extra ones, as they are mentioned in the contract and you need to pay only if something goes wrong. you see, clinic can't guarantee you that nothing could ever happen but drs will do their best to make you a parent. and yes, those fees are only for ideal pack. different packages have different conditions and prices 54 yamamma
3/28/2017
yamamma Oh, thank you, it seems too difficult maybe only to me. Perfectly to hear the doctors will do their best to make me a mom. How I madly want and wait for it! I hope youíre not tired and I can ask you something else. What about your journey? How are you and what do you experience now? You explain like an expert I guess you have finished your journey, and you are just so kind to help others. 55 Rozental
3/28/2017
2Rozental: well thank you for considering me as a specialist, it's so sweet of you. This journey is difficult for everyone, you are no the only one. So, you have the same strong wish to start your 11th cycle, don't you? as for me, I signed a contract with biotex and all I can now is to wait for my egg donor to be stimulated. I chose that package I mentioned, "ideal", up to 2 de ivfs and a switch to surrogacy. 56 yamamma
4/4/2017
Hi Rozental. again. As I've noticed, you didn't start your treatment. Maybe you are ready to share any updates? You may ask me if you are interested in egg donation or IVF, after 2 babies were born via egg donation and the 3d one is only a sweet pea I'm ready to support you throughout your journey x 57 pin
4/4/2017
yamamma I need to admit last several nights were sleepless, I have to say something. Itís not easy, but I found it more reasonable than my endless hide-and-seek. My treatment wasnít just my wish to give a birth it became a wicked game with the rest of my health. I canít express how much I have had to recall and rethink. I made a decision to take part in surrogacy. Thatís all. 58 Rozental
4/4/2017
-to Pin Hi! I hesitated, I had many doubts, and I wanted anybody to assure me not to do this again. Perhaps I found this human. I want no longer to torture myself. Donít blame me if week ago I was categorically against of using surro, I was weak and waited for good arguments. Now I want to try it. Iím going to visit Ukraine, as you all suggested. 59 Rozental
4/4/2017
Rozental I know what sleepless nights are. It's a crucial moment in your life, I think. We all have to go through such crisis to understand that something goes wrong. I understand you totally if it's ever possible to understand each other. Your decision is admirable. To be honest, I wanted to suggest you surrogacy instead of killing your organism with those hormones. Keep fingers crossed! I hope you'll find the best option for you. btw, my clinic provides surrogacy. 59 yamamma
4/4/2017
rozental Hi, Roze! Your post was at the top, and I decided to visit you. I see you have changed your mind, few dayz (week or two) you resisted and wantied to get one more chance. Your desire was to have a baby via the next IVF round, you were crazy, guess you had heard it before. Thatís ok. I had my own experience in surrogacy, now Iím a mom of amazing Billy, he is 4. I really want to be useful, Iím open to be asked. 60 Gallas
4/4/2017
gallas Hello, dear! Are you new? Anyway, welcome! Yes, I donít want to repeat but I expanded my view at this topic. I need no more to go through stimulations and useless treatment. I want to find good variant to try surrogacy. Iím happy for you and your amazing kid. Where did you have your surrogacy? 61 Rozental
4/4/2017
rozental The same as you Iíve been trying hard for so long, I used my last power to be pregnant. I understood that the decision to go through surrogacy was right when I was informed that my surrogate was about to deliver. Oh! I was flaming thrilling excited dead and alive at the same time. Cool day, I swear! It was a cool day! I had a vertigo! My journey had place in Ukrainian clinic for human reproduction. 62 Gallas
4/4/2017
gallas Ok! I have just said about that It was good to consider one of the Ukrainian variants. I am already acquainted with approximate prices, and they can surprise. One thing I concern about is the quality of the service that Ukraine can provide. I heard lot about it, very positive feedbacks, I guessÖ of course the main thing you should know Iím grateful you are here to support me. 63 Rozental
4/4/2017
amanmmama Yes, it was real crisis in my life. A real collision of thoughts that didnít give me a calm. I predicted it will be a moment when I decide to stop this body trial. Because it repeated and repeated I did net see the finish of these cycles. I think that surrogacy finally can give me what I was searching for. you said your clinic provides its clients with surrogacy. What type of surrogacy? Isnít it too expensive? I have to say I canít afford the variants from the other side of the Ocean. 64 Rozental
4/5/2017
Gallas Itís really cute! Canít imagine what the exciting day you had! In fact I have heard much about Ukrainian clinics. Different things and opinions. Mostly they were actually positive and with gratitude. Today couples more often choose Ukraine. I donít know what a surrogacy they offer. It can hardly be commercial type, i guess. I know a bit about it. But looking at your response I can conclude they gave you all you needed. 65 Rozental
4/5/2017
ROZENTAL Sorry, you are mistaken. Ukraine has commercial conditions to promote a gestational surrogacy furthermore there is specific article in legislation concerning to the surrogacy performing and other moments related to this process. Ití s a very strict and serious approach. You can be provided with all necessary during your program. Ukraine became a comfortable place for such treatment. I meet lots of people especially on the forums who applied to the Ukrainian clinics. 66 Gallas
4/5/2017
gallas Really? Hmm. I thought they had some restrictions. Indeed if we look at the European practice weíll see that many countries such as Germany, Norway, Italy prohibited surrogacy within their territory. But we know these countries are highly developed and they set the tendencies. Why does Ukraine continue to conduct a surrogacy? Iím warrying because it may be a trap. Permitted surrogacy isnít a too common thing, and considering this Ukraine can decline the quality of its service and raise the prices. 67 Rozental
4/5/2017
rozental Actually everything is on the contrary. I can recommend Ukrainian service, we liked it. All staff seemed attentive to us. They emitted a care and good mood. If you started a talk about service, you should know youíd never get the same service in the USA for such price. Additionally the contract we signed was covering all expenses associated to our stay there in Kiev. We are satisfied. Hah I feel a little insult when somebody asks about our clinic in the adverse manner. 68 Gallas
4/5/2017
rozental Ohh. What about different countries which banned surrogacy I notice that they had done it mostly due to religion issues or because public claims. Perhaps they donít have any interest in such kind of tourism on their areas. Anyway natives have an opportunity to go abroad to take part in reproductive programs. I can suppose you had limited knowledge regarding Ukrainian destination, only info that you got on forums. Iíd be happy to tell you some details if you want. 69 Gallas
4/5/2017
Gallas What does your clinic do? What kind of programs? I heard about some Ukrainian clinics, why have you chosen it? Thank you very much, itís very nice of you. I donít know about it too much because I was interested in other things and didnít seriously consider that Ukraine could be my way out. Try to change my mind, please 70 Rozental
4/5/2017
Rozental Oh, I only passed through their surrogacy program, but can assume they conduct surro with own and donor eggs, egg donation and also embryo donation. And perhaps lots of different special procedures which I canít pronounce. You said you had expected for more number of restrictions in Ukraine, I recalled they donít provide gay couples with medical assistance. only heterosexual couples with marriage certificate can begin the program. 71 Gallas
4/5/2017
gallas Fortunately Iím not a gay! Sorry. I donít have any claims or protests about someone elseís wish to be loved by same-sex person. Well. you have mentioned different packages, what do they consist of? How can the couple for example yours or ours choose specific one the most suitable? A very long thread was made under my post, I guess it would be better to create a new post. Thank you for your participation. I have gotten many useful ideas! 72 Rozental
4/5/2017
Rozental, I suppose it was meant for me "amanmmama"? Well, it has gestational surrogacy and prices are 30, 40,50k for different all-inclusive packages. I had another one with transition, you remember? so, didn't find out the details of different contracts yet. anyway, every surrogacy package you choose you'll have lots of benefits like accommodation, food, transfer, interpreter and others. sounds not bad, yeh? 73 yamamma
4/5/2017
rozental Honestly Ė yeah, sounds not bad. Itís excellent for us as for visitors-customers not to rank our brains over that where to find hotels and cafes. How to get to the clinic and so on. Itís definitely remarkable option. But didnít you notice some disadvantages during your stay there? It canít be so that organization has no weak sides. 74 Rozental
4/6/2017
yamamma Hah, excuse me please! I didnít catch your claim regarding to the nick. I was hurrying and didnít note I had made mistake. As far you can see I made another one I pointed out my personal nickname in the last reply, because i donít pay big attention to these details. 75 Rozental
4/7/2017
To Gallas Itís real luck to find you all who were with this clinic in past or are now. I appreciate your participation in my severe issue. Woman shouldnít be face to face with her problems, she isnít pretty clever to make things right, I think decision-making is the male competence. Actually I can talk only about myself and Iím not good in proper thing choosing. But I can see the difference in comparison. 76 Rozental
4/7/2017
Rozental You want me to compare the packages, alright. Iíll try to be useful. As I had said we dealed with three available types of contracts. Each one has its special aspects, not only the price differences. Itís understandable and clear. Weíll talk about offers associated to the surrogacy, cause you said you need to consider such a variant of treatment. I donít want to be impolite but what a sum of money do you agree to give for your intended program? It will help me to focus on particular package more than on others. 77 Gallas
4/7/2017
Gallas Yup, surrogacy is currently the first thing weíre considering. It will be jolly kind of you that you can devote your time to explain it to me. We have approximately 50k, that are free to be used in our journey, I know how small this sum is but weíll be saving more. I hope probably we have time for that. Furthermore as you said we shouldnít bring money to cover our daily expenses such as eating and room rent. If God lets it everything will be perfect. 78 Rozental
4/7/2017
That's ok, I get it. If you think about surrogacy then pay attention to legal part of the question. You already know that it's not legal everywhere but conditions in countries and clinics differ. I advise you to make a list of the most important criteria. It would be helpful when choosing a clinic because there are lots of them. You should know that the cost of services may vary greatly and you need to ask waht is included. It's a common thing when you see one price on internet and then you'll have a list of additional payments. and what I wrote you before was information only about one clinic you may find lots of other options. 78 yamamma
4/7/2017
rozental, no one wants to pay too much however ivf and surrogacy is not that thing everybody can afford. but you know there are options where it's not that expensive to have tratment of course i mean in comparison to others because it's always expensive i guess. it costs 30-50k in biotex. i heard in some other clinics it may be even 100+. so be attentive, girl 79 pin
4/7/2017
rozental Ok, donít worry. Your savings are pretty good to take part in every type of program. they even donít have more expensive offers. It sounds strangely because as you can see US invites to try more intricate offerings for prices which are exorbitant, also you have to add flight tickets to the expenses. The simplest and the cheapest option is certainly Economy package with starting price 29K for all services except of those Iíll list. There are at least two terms in all inclusive economy package which I donít like. In case of twin pregnancy of your surrogate you should have to pay additional 3k, and also 6k if her pregnancy will be unfortunately interrupted by different factors after 12 weeks. Clearly? Also this package impact on the size of your accommodation area. In this case youíll live in hotel room. 80 Gallas
4/7/2017
Rozental But look at in Standard package we have visible changes. The payment in size of 3k in case twin pregnancy remains the same, but you donít have to pay for miscarriage after 12th week all these difficulties will be covered by the clinic. Also youíll be provided by all the necessary services Ė baby sitter (4 hours a day), baby doctor coming each other day to check your babyís health, and other assistance related to the childís birth. Thatís really cool. Do you think the same way? Wo! Also clinic conducts PGD to avoid possible genetically abnormalities, itís included into the Standard package. 81 Gallas
4/7/2017
rozental And at last letís look through the ViP-package. this is the most completed and expensive offer. itís explained by its content. It costs near 50k/ oops! Turning back to the standard I should say that that one costs 39K. Well. find out from the beginning you donít need to pay for anything related to premature delivery, twins and miscarriage. The package includes all these expenses and any extra payments are absent. Also youíll be accommodated in real large personal apartment. After the birth youíll have 24/7 connection with pediatrician and babysitter (8 hours). Also youíll be provided by PGD service to detect possible genetic abnormalities as well as the sex of a baby. Now you see. 82 Gallas
4/7/2017
yamamma Yes, now I finally understood. Thank you all. All of you applied force to make things clearer to me. As far I could see this forum is a habitat for biotex customers, ahah. Thanks to Gallas, she has described the packages in details, well done work. I even have copied her replies and ctrl-ved them into the word-doc in my PC. Iím happy that I decided to create a post here. 83 Rozental
4/7/2017
pin Actually I donít intend to save money trying to have a baby. Our future baby is more important and essential thing in our life than cash and banknotes. But also we donít want to face any serious problems with our stay in clinic. I know how high the prices can be, and how it is to pay for strange service that you even didnít use. I hope this time weíll be luckier. I want to take into a count all possible unpleasant aspects. 84 Rozental
4/7/2017
Gallas Thatís cool! I should admit thatís really good offer for everyone who searches for such appropriate combination of the services and price. I donít imagine just how comfortable it was organized I guess itís huge work of logistic group and coordinators. I hope you shared true facts. Because that information impacts on our choice. So the last.. how much does vip pack cost? 85 Rozental
4/10/2017
Rozental I agree, no words cause itís surely cool. If I was in search and I started my journey in the clinic that offered the worse service, I think Iíd be upset and regret money and time I had lost. I donít exactly know everything but if someone asks me to suggest the most suitable place which provides with reproductive medical assistance Iíll say having no doubts, it's Biotex the clinic. It costs 49. I thought I had mentioned it. 86 Gallas
4/10/2017
galass Thank you it was helpfully to know. I compared with different clinics, overseas clinics, itís cheap offer. Donít they decrease the cost of packages with help of debasing service quality? Because they offer perhaps one of the cheapest prices among other clinics. I mean the cost which contains of all described services and any necessary meds. I wish itís not a dream. 87 Rozental
4/14/2017
Oh, no, itís not about them of course. We received a very good support there and quality of provided service was quite high! Comfy accommodation, expensive car with a driver and pleasant coordinators, enough level of communicationÖ I couldnít complain all was in order and under control of specialists, you can trust in it. Am not good at medicine but looking at my baby I comprehend they knew how to perform the medical part perfectly. 88 Gallas
4/14/2017
Gallas You know better hah. Oh, how itís sweet to have an opportunity to see your own baby playing next to you, Iíd give all jewels which belong to the Pacific to hug my babe. Thank you and I wish you have a perfect health! I hope my story will have the same outcome. Donít I deserve it through all my sufferings? 89 Rozental
4/14/2017
I guess you shouldnít bring too much to them. You saw that less than 50 k could be enough to have a quite safe journey. Donít worry, a lot of people, the same couples as ours were passing through reproductive programs and it brought a successful result. Just make a first step straight to your old aim. 90 Gallas
4/14/2017
I donít want to create a new post here. There are not much active people who take part in such discussions. So I decided to respond below the main thread. I really seemed mad even to myself during the last half a year. Such mutable mood I had. It was so tough to keep thoughts in safe. In short! Iím feeling free and fine. Certainly, itís not a freedom in the best meaning. But Iíve already done something important to my life. My husband and I have signed a contract in wonderful Ukrainian clinic! Surrogacy journey is coming up! 91 Rozental
5/23/2017
Really?? In fact, when you created this thread I didnít expect anything productive from you at least in the nearest future. But youíve jumped over my poor expectations in advance. You are great girl, Iím proud of you. I hope nothing will change your mind. Exactly, if you payed it would hold you on the way. hah it's a feature of our mentality. How was it dear? Receive my congrats! 92 Gallas
5/25/2017
Gallas Surprisingly enough it was good event in my life. As far I recall I had few good events during my grown up life. These are my birth, my meeting with husband, our trip to Toscana and that one I gonna describe. We hesitated over a long period of time changing and weighting our plans. But suddenly my man became a real ironman and broke my doubts. It was a sign to do something in right direction. We were met at the airport and transferred to the hotel we stayed in. At clinic we met out manager who leaded us to the agreement. We liked all sides of our stay there. And weíd badly like to repeat our visit soon. 93 Rozental
5/25/2017
Itís amazing. the man has to support his wife. Of course majority of us could have got nothing without manís help. Itís normal enough and i admit that if i was alone i'd never be successful. Iím glad to know you liked your journey to Kiev. Well, what was after your arrival? How did your manager behave? I guess you didnít feel any hardships with language environment. What was the first impression regarding the clinic? 94 Gallas
5/26/2017
Gallas We were satisfied with her work. She looked like full of energy and that pushed us being more active too. Actually, you know this eternal fatigue that pursues people which tried too long. My husband took a blood test and gave his semen sample in the special dark room with tv in there. hah Then after signing the contract we got an access to the donor base. The clinic looked fine and cozy while we were staying outside. But there were too many couples indoor to prolong our convenience. 95 Rozental
5/26/2017
So, well, I may think you didnít like the place where you were? But if we look at the clinicís building on the official site we can see it has unusual design. Such an interesting form. I know that an official site shows only photos with good perspectives. I hope your second impressions will be different the next time. What can you say about the staff and the donor base? 96 Gallas
5/30/2017
No, actually, you got it all wrong. And I think the same. The form of clinicís building makes me calm down. Itís not the strict terrifying lines that we used to see in the medical office buildings. It was easier to accept our presence in there and come in. And also we saw nothing terrible indoor. It was cheerful hall and people who worked there smiled to us pleasantly. The one thing maybe that didnít let us rest is a number of the patients from different countries inside. The clinic has to make the inner space larger to seat more people up with comfort. 97 Rozental
5/30/2017
Of course they have to think about your personal space. I guess they know about this issue and are trying to solve the problem. I heard your clinic prepares places for the new buildings. I think one day they will be able to unveil the new offices. I always supposed that such a big number of clients says about clinicís ability to operate with this number in the meantime. And about clientsí desire to cooperate with this clinic. 98 Gallas
5/30/2017
Rosental, it's been a while since our last conversation but I'd love to know what have you decided. Are you still going to start surrogacy? Or maybe you've already started? Which clinic did you choose? basically I just want to know how are you. 99 yamamma
5/30/2017
Hi. probably my best friend form Manchester U.K. has been more than 5 times stimulated. The physicians collected quite good number of oocytes but their quality was dropping. And it was a miracle because nobody expected for that she became pregnant through her first attempt on donor eggs. By the way sheís a mom of three boys now. She didnít use a selective reduction and all three embryos hatched and developed. Her self-consistency inspired me because I also couldnít get pregnant during a decent period of time. But itís so exhausting to try and try with no results. I guess it was more reasonable for you to change your mind few years ago. It could be the guarantee of your progress. 100 toytoo
6/27/2017
I would agree with what bethany said. Egg donation or surrogacy might be the best option for you. It has worked for me and many other mums that I know. You might want to consult a specialist though. BioTexCom in Kiev, Ukraine offers highly professional surrogacy and egg donation programs. The initial consultation is free and their contracts include unlimited attempts. We had a great experience as the managers there could communicate really well in english. We were also offered free accommodation and food. Travelling to Ukraine was the best decision we could make at that point of time. I wish you all the happiness and may you take the right step in the right direction. 101 junep
7/14/2017
I feel the same as junep. I am sorry for your attempts of IVF failed. But don't you think taking the surrogacy route will benefit you? As junep said, the clinic in Kiev has highly professional surrogacy programs and the surrogacy contracts offer unlimited attempts. If you have the proofs of not being able to carry a child, but can be stimulated. You can undergo the surrogacy treatment. They use only the husband's sperm and the treatment is started after the surrogate mother is matched. The process is really good at the clinic in Ukraine and you can know all about it on their website. I just gave you a brief idea of how surrogacy can bring joy to you and your family. I wish you all the best. 102 reena232
7/14/2017
Hey, just like everyone else, I am excited to know what did you finally decide and what is happening with you now? How are things? Did you go with the surrogacy option and if yes, where did you do it? 103 lea43
7/14/2017
Darling, I am so sorry to hear that. There are a lot of clinics out there in the world. Do not even stop trying. I wish you good luck with giving a birth to your own child. There are a lot of good clinics in Ukraine, that are giving a good cheap service. They have the guaranteed packet - with unlimited attempts, which is the most expensive, but effective and hopeful one. http://biotexcom.com You can find more here about BioTexCom, but I hope it will help you. 104 jennafly
7/23/2017
Hi. I've read your case and I can understand you. As we grow older. The worry of being able to have a baby grows. Fertility treatments are not easy. Not all of them work with the same rapids and effectiveness. You have tried other treatment. Or maybe you change your clinic? Thanks to science. Now we have many options to treat fertility. I've always said that age is just a number. Do not let it be a barrier to fulfill your dream. Do not let it get in the way of your fight against infertility. One option is surrogacy. There are many agencies that can guide you with that. The most important thing is not to lose faith and hope. My best wishes for you. 105 nickalawad
7/29/2017
Thank you, I will look into your suggestions. I hope it will help me. 106 Shree
8/18/2017
Hi welcome sister. I can understand your problem very well. I am here for you to provide valuable information to clear all your doubts in medical way. I am so sorry for your infertility problem. I also face same problem in my life. I want to share my personal experience with you that are helpful for you to overcome this difficult situation in your life. I am one of the lucky women who defeat infertility problem very easily. I hope you get full spot from my side to defeat infertility problem in easy and effective way. I want to suggest you some effective tips and tricks that you should strictly follow to enjoy endless joy in your life to defeat infertility problem. You should understand the importance of proper planning to defeat infertility problem. You should maintain high level of hormone that provide regular period cycle and higher quality that is beneficial for you to achieve your dream into reality. You should be informative to understand your body signal very well. It is clear indication that your body hormone level is not in balance. You should use proper exercise and morning walk to enhance your immunity and proper blood supply to all organs of your body. You should consume balance diet that is sufficient to provide valuable nutrition to all organ of body. It is the best way to make proper appropriate platform to conceive easily that has high success rate. You should use Healthy lifestyle that is beneficial for you in many ways. You can easily avoid all type of problems your with balance in your body and mind through meditation and yoga. You should not miss this golden opportunity in your life I hope to defeat infertility problem in easy way. 107 Deepika
8/18/2017
First of all, I want to express kind heart thanks to God to provide this reliable platform to share my personal life experience to overcome your problem in easy and effective way. This is win-win situation for you and me to help each other to overcome this horrible situation in your life. I am feeling pity and pain due to your multiple failure of IVF test tube baby treatment that has high success rate. It is not good news for you. You should be very informative to understand each and every signal of your body to overcome any type of pregnancy related problem in advance to get maximum benefit in short time period. We try each and every effective method but failed every time like you. I want to accept my husband support to handle this horrible situation with positive thinking. It is very important to have true bonding with husband and wife to understand each other physical needs and emotional very well to face this infertility problem in easy and effective way. You can choose surrogacy treatment to defeat multiple miscarriage problems in professional way. You need not panic about legal and any other difficulty in your life with surrogacy treatment that has high success rate then IVF test tube baby treatment. You should not miss this golden opportunity in your life to defeat infertility problem with world class treatment that is most popular and reliable treatment all over the world that is boon for infertile women to handle multiple miscarriage problem in medical way. It is the best idea to skip high risk of death during pregnancy in rare cases to get real value of treatment to defeat infertility like me. 108 deepieku
9/1/2017
Hello, all. so sorry for you multiple failed cycles. I thought I was the only one here trying to be pregnant. it's so painful to see lots of young girls posting their infertility. from many years I just want to have a baby, one more baby actually. I don't know what happened, I became a mother after the first de IVF round. Donít give up and continue trying 109 amaya
9/14/2017
Hi, pretty women I want to share my story with you. I was trying to conceive but with no results. Then I found an egg donor.my donor was a young and healthy girl. I had 3 more cycles with the same embryos but no go. Dr. told me to consider surrogacy as an option. But I want to bear my baby on my own. GL 110 asnat
9/14/2017
Hello, I'm really sorry about your current situation. I think you should give it some time. 111 Shannon_erwan
9/14/2017

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